Has anyone had issues with an Innovv K2 causing interference with the tyre pressure monitoring system on a BMW R1200GSA?
Here's my story
Denali CanSmart with front D4's, Soundbomb and rear B6 fitted by Innovv UK recommended supplier/installer Moto-Mate, together with Innovv K2, initially wired to spare port on CanSmart set to switched output
All good on the bench, but first test ride showed rear type sensor failed to show a reading
As the CanSmart uses the RDC port as a passthrough to the CanBus first thought was the CanSmart. No error lights on CanSmart, firmware on both units all updated. So CanSmart swapped for new unit - issues remained
Through various logical diagnosis routines, we disabled the Innovv (just removing the fire at first). Everything returned to normal, so our attention shifted to the Innovv
Unit was relocated to several positions. Same with the Voltage convertor. Issues still remained
Wiring routing changed. Issues still remained (rear reading not showing - and just to explain rear sensor dash error was no signal, NOT low battery, but with Innovv disabled the reading immediately returned)
Innovv yellow trigger wire removed from CanSmart and took direct feed off the rear light wiring as recommended - issue still remained
Swapped K2 unit for new unit - issue still remained
Removed Front camera - reading returned. Thought we'd found the fault so replaced the front camera. During all the above the fitter was doing numerous test rides at each stage. Feeling he'd found the issue I then took it for a test ride - rear reading failed
Carefully working out what the difference was between me and him - I carried my phone that was connected to the Innovv Wi-Fi. Disabled Wi-Fi - reading returned. Set my wi-fi to NOT Auto-Join, will only connect when I want to download when stationary as you'd expect
So far seemed that a combination of front camera failure and my wifi was causing interference to signal
After 2 days of install/reinall and one further evening we thought we had cracked it. But next day on commute everything failed as before. Put phone into airplane mode, things came back
So on return commute tried to get more granularity than airplane mode, trying various combinations of airplane mode, wifi mode, mobile 3g/4g, helmet intercom, satnav bluetooth, and phone bluetooth
Finally seemed to be that if I had Phone Bluetooth enabled it failed, but with it off the reading returned. Bear in mind though I never had any issue with phone bluetooth connected to satnav and headset before Innovv was installed
And even then trying this routine the next day resulted in (with phone bluetooth off) that the readings returned, but only for 10 minutes. Then they disappeared for 10 minutes. Then returned for the remainder of the 1 hour commute. Yet the return gave a consistent reading for the entire duration
All of this ONLY if Innovv is powered up. If I remove the fuse everything works as normal
Saturday we are trying the shorter 1.5m camera lead if it will reach, and fitting numerous ferrite cores as suppressors to both camera leads
Anyone else, I've seen other non-elaborate references to both location/leads/use of cores on other sites not necessarily specific to the K2
During all this Rock has tried to be contacted, sadly no response from several attempts. I'd be pleased to get some response from Innovv, so far Innovv UK are advising they need HQ feedback, but none has been forthcoming from Rock yet
Thanks for your attention to read this far, interested in any thoughts please!
Unfortunately my problems were only fixed for a short time. I located the DVR behind the LHS fairing, but as 'dash' above points out, this is not a long term solution. :(
I have spent hours installing graphite cores, repositioning the DVR, then the cameras: all to no avail. It is a great camera when it is working, but at the cost of stopping the TPMS working.
I will continue for a while to try and resolve these issues, but my patience is wearing thin.
Hi,
Now for surly the problem coming from DVR unit:
I removed the voltage converter and GPS unit.
Connected Front and Rear Cameras to DVR (located under passenger seat) power supply directly from powerbank (USB) - same issues front sensor sync after 3-4 min (normal sync after 20 -45 sec) , rear not sync at all (once WIFI off after 5 min , rear sensor still no sync)
once I disconect the powerbank (20-45 sec) after all sensors sync normal.
in second test i move the DVR to Fuel tank bag (or backpack) - same shit .
I'm already desperate for this shit product
Annoying that no one is taking responsibility or trying to replace the DVR or anything.
Trigger wire runs off the HEXEZCAN in the rear 'boot. I have also run a fixed USB cable from the main DVR unit into the space under the rider seat, which works well if I need the recorded contents (rather than wifi).
The USB cable in this picture is for the HEX.
Power supply right in the middle of the picture. You can see that I have used several ferrite cores on my cables.
2 x on each camera lead close to the lens(s)
2 on each camera feed into the main unit
1 on each wire into and out of the power supply, including the trigger wire
All cables run LHS of the tank to the space under the riders seat.
I promised some pictures so here we go: main unit located LHS behind the radiator. No issues with it getting wet at all, even after washing.
Indeed. Sorry, it's all been rather hectic here. Since I moved everything around, the TPMS is working front & rear and is accurate on the Nav5 readout screen. I have NO error messages on my bike screen, so I am a happy bunny. :)
any news ?
So, I have an update. Maybe some success after all. :)
I have tried something slightly different in terms of DVR location and after 2 weeks it appears to be working consistently.
I will take some pictures to show you all later this week. It will also give me some more opportunities for more testing.
I have to say that I have spent hours of my valuable time trying to make this system work with the BMW GS. I would have hoped for more from a product which is not cheap to purchase. The only reason I persisted was that the other cameras I have previously tried have been pretty poor. :(
More to follow soon.
I relocate the DVR and DC converter to (passenger seat, rider seat)
no readings in rear sensor in both locations .... disconcting GPS cable does not improve the readings.
front sensor sometimes appear for few minutes and loses reading again (after 5 minutes (WIFI OFF) the situation does not improve (I rode about 45 minutes)
Once I disconnect the power of the DVR, sensors readings repeat at that moment without any problem (I rode about 45 minutes)
very disappointed :(
The automatic "WIFI" turn off after 5 minutes does not solve the problem (GPS disconnect does not solve the problem ).
Do not understand why I have to ride 5 minutes without sensors reading ?
try to reduce the time to 1 minute or give the option to turn ON the WIFI with a button. (relese beta version)
The problem is not in location of the unit.....
frequency conflict that blocks the transmission of the sensors
Thanks,
Alex.
@Rommert Adema I placed the GPS antenna under the passenger seat.
I never drive with a passenger and almost always have good GPS reception.
I placed the DVR in front of the battery. I can now easily get to the card reader to remove the SD card.
As you can see I placed the dvr between some foam.
This dampens vibrations and I have no problems with saving the video files to the SD card.
I tapped the yellow 'contact wire' from the connector for the top box that is placed under the passenger seat.
Since 2019 you continue to give plaster solutions to all BMW members
At the bottom line, your device conflicts with BMW RDC / TPMS system. what about real solution?
Why I should turn on the motorcycle and wait until WIFI is turned off and only then will the sensor's readings be normal? this is not a method for device with price tag 338$
The WIFI should be deactivated at the start automatically ,give me the option to choose when to turn it on
For example:
Double click on main button or single click on the REST button turns WIFI on\off (long press 5 sec ,rests the device)
Alex.
Hi,
same issue with RDC/TPMS on BMW R1200GSA 2018 model.
converter and K2 unit located below the passenger seat running the latest version 0.70.
K2 power off - the sensors show a correct readings and connect within a few seconds.
Once I turn on the K2 unit the readings do not appear or it takes them a long time until one of the sensors connects.
Innovv , Do you have a solution to this issue ?
Thanks,
Alex.
You could try to disconnect the GPS and see if it works then.
I'm realatively new to this issue, but some what disappinted. On my previous bike I had a k1 and it was great, it did what it was supposed to do, when it should do it. But then I bought a 2014 BMW R1200RT bike, so I sold my thrusty k1 unit with my old bike. And I bought a k2 unit, thinking it would be just as great. Due to the covid-19 it took me some time to get it installed and now I'm here. Having the same problems everybody has.
1) TPMS is not working, unless I disconnect the power of the dvr, 2) GPS is not registered, even though the green led is steady burning. And 3) the battery drain has already depleted my battery once. @innovv how can I get a improved version of the powerconverter?