Hi everyone. Has anyone else experienced their K2 interfering with their bike's tyre pressure sensors? My sensors started playing up after I installed the K2 (sometimes not showing the tyre pressure on the dashboard, sometimes erroneously indicating an underinflated tyre). I took the bike to the dealer and they indicated that it might be the K2's wifi interfering with the sensor system. I thought it was b***s***, but unplugged the camera system just to check, and everything went back to working normally. I'm going to give it another week or so with the camera unplugged to check on my next few rides, and then plug the camera back in to see if the tyre sensor problem re-appears. In the meantime, anyone else had similar issues? Is there a way of temporarily disabling the K2's wifi without unplugging the whole camera system?
Cheers.
@Walter Vogelgesang Thanks, and the motorcycle model updated in my post.
Understood and no longer an issue for myself as the issue is now resolved. But (and there's always a but), yes, problem is known, but the workaround/fix is not so well known. I suspect most customers who purchase the product internationally are not motivated to join the forum. To be honest, I only joined the forum to see if there was a fix to my issue and there was lots of commentary and suggestions, but no fix. So my message here is - INNOVV, please, update your product installation guide (inside the box) and the website. That's it for me and I've said my bit, and hopefully, I've helped someone struggling with the same issue as I had. Cheers, Mike - 2017 BMW R1200RLC
No, just to be clear I am not suggesting that the problem lies with the motorcycle manufacturer! But it may be possible. Different systems can interact with each other.
It's more about the discussion that people are always pointing at each other. One person thinks this, the other person thinks that. In my personal opinion, only Innovv is now being pointed out.
The 'problem' is known. The solution is known, so let's make use of this knowledge. The weather will be nice again, so let's enjoy the motorcycle rides.
I should be upfront here and state that I am satisfied and enjoy the system's peace of mind and functionality. However, the TPMS issue was very frustrating to sort out, and all the internet searching for a fix added to my frustration. Innovv may well say the system passes EMI testing, but still, the issue is what it is. If one does a relatively simple search, one will find the problem exists not just with BMW but several other manufacturers as well. I only posted my workaround solution to help some who have the same issue. However, to throw this issue back at the motorcycle manufacturer seems quite odd to me. Wasn't this an aftermarket product design specifically for motorcycles and not something designed for another purpose and an ad-hoc adaption for motorcycles as an afterthought? Furthermore, the issue is for Innovv to make clear in the instructions supplied with the product and not on FAQ pages on a distributor's website.
You may also wonder is it a problem of Innovv or the motorcycle manufacturer. Because it is also possible that the tire pressure gauge of the motorcycle manufacturer is too sensitive to external influences.
Innovv made it clear in the user manual that their systems passed the EMI testing. Did the motorcycle manufacturer mention this about their TPMS system?
In the end it turns out to be a story of pointing at each other. And nobody is happy about that. The problem and solution is known. Then let's take advantage of that.
So the solution is the buyer's issue to solve as opposed to INNOVV using different shielding or correcting the physical structure of the device? Our lab says the steering works fine. Just remember to turn the steering wheel right to go left and left to go right.
On my R1200RLC the bikes RDC unit is under the seat latch bar and the camera cable were routed right next to it. I wouldn't have thought it would cause interference but it did and since rerouting the camera cables it fixed the issue. Apart from not reading front tyre pressure, I kept getting a low-pressure warning on the dash and was concerned about a fault code although I carry a GS911 that would clear the code. Interesting (being a bit anal), I trowled through all of the all of the FAQ on Innovv.com and the UK distributors website FAQ and BINGO! I found this reference. Why have thus buried in an obscure location? These should be in bold in the installation guide.
Check out FAQ Item 23
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I had the 12v converter and DVR in the front cowling near the radiator (R1200GS) and even so I was having front tire pressure reading problems.
After removing it, I no longer had problems
This has been a known issue for years. I had this and a number of other problems (Deformed connectors, TPMS interference, Andriod compatibility, battery drain, G sensor interruptions of recording, etc.) with my K1300S. I was one of the first to order the system and one of the first to return it for a refund. If INNOVV is still playing games at this point, you can forget a solution to be forthcoming.
Thanks for sharing this information. I would have never thought that it are the cables of the cameras, which are emitting the interferences. May be that the TPMS unit is very sensitive to interferences, too. Nevertheless I think that Innovv should think about improving the shielding of the cables then.
@INNOVV™ Steven Hu
Could you please forward Michaels findings to your dev team?
The point about "route the cables away from the TPMS unit" should also be added to your FAQ and Manual.
I have had an ongoing issue with my K2 Innovv and TPMS reading (front Tyre pressure reading) on my '17 BMW R1200R for over 18 months. I've updated the firmware, change the front tyre sensor and turn off wifi but with no luck until I figured out it was the camera cables too close to the under seat TPMS ECU causing interference. I rerouted camera cables and move the 12 volt convert way from the DVR and problem solved. TPMS is working perfectly and reading tyre pressure perfectly. So for all the long suffering BMW installations with TPMS issues, I suggest looking a how close the 12 volt converter is to the DVR and camera cables are to the bikes TPMS RDC/ECU. Regards Mike _ Sydney Australia.
Original installation:
Reconfigured installation:
12 Volt converter moved at least 150cm away from the DVR.
I’ve been having a similar issue with my K2 and BikeTrac gps tracker. When the K2 is turned on it is blocking the god reception for the security tracking device.i tried disconnecting the K2 gps module and disabling WiFi after 5 mins but it appears to be the unit itself or the cameras that are causing the interference. If I pull the fuse on the K2 the gps tracker works straight away. Any ideas on how to suppress the interference.
As I said in my message, the TPS is working fine.
When I used disc utilities, there wasn’t a fat32 option 🙁
Cheers Steve, the issue I have at the moment, is, the last time I formatted the SD, it rendered the card useless, I can’t copy to it any more, that’s a 64gb card too. I’ll have to buy another before I can go on.
Really not getting very far with this at all. Can anyone tell me if the SD card has to be completely formatted and only have the K2.bin file on it? and is fat32 the only format its happy with? because my mac doesnt have that option. Can i put the K2.bin file into the root with any other folders there?
@keithtremeer hello Keith,
Have you tested V0.62?
We need to collect feedback to improve the APP and firmware and solve the problem of interference fundamentally.
If you have any feedback, please reply to us in time.
You can also contact us at innovv@innovv.com.
The following is the download address of firmware 0.62 (without WiFi function) :
https://www.dropbox.com/s/l77y0lfo6i80ixa/K2.bin?dl=0
Thank you!
Any discussions / Informations about the TPMS issue should please only go to this thread...
https://www.innovv.com/forum/innovv-k2/issues-with-rdc-tpms-on-bmw-r1200gsa
This avoids we and you are missing something.
Thankyou, I’ll Give it a go later.
@keithtremeer @Walter Vogelgesang @CAMCAM @Raymond Wand
Please follow the above discussion to do test, your feedback is important.