Hi, I've been struggling a bit getting good reception on my GPS unit and was hoping some of you could share your experience in finding the best location for the unit.
I have only manged to get the GPS to connect once so far and this was with the unit held in the air above my bike.
I get a good GPS reception on my Car, Phone and Tracker unit at the same physical location so I know the signal is not blocked by buildings etc.
Also has anyone had much success having the unit under the fairing?
Cheers.
Thanks for sharing this information.
I have been working very closely with Jon Smejkal, who is the owner of OCDTronic (The US distributor of INNOVV products). He was able to resolve the source of the problem I was having.
Here is the conclusion. 1) The K2 does write GPS data in both MP4 and TS file format
2) The current version of Dashcam Viewer software DOES NOT support reading GPS data from TS files - A version v3.6.8 will include this as the developer has a file to test with now
3) The speed on the video is a key to verifying GPS data - I had video showing speed, but no GPS coordinates in Dashcam Viewer. Jon was able to use this clue to get with the developer for Dashcam Viewer who concluded the issue. I hope this helps and I appreciate the support from Jon at OCDTronics
Pictures are of GPS Unit and DVR
@Mitch @bardicastle
We have to get problem fixed.
Our customer support team will reach you and please confirm the GPS connector is metal or plastic, will send you the new replacement.
More features in firmware will not affect the storage on the SD card. The firmware is stored in the internal memory and does not take up any space on the SD card.
With the K5 and K3, GPS data is stored in the TS files.
I have done several tests and with DashcamViewer the GPS data can be retrieved from the TS files. I just don't remember which firmware version this was with. I always use the MP4 format because my video editing software can handle this better than the TS format.
DashcamViewer mentions:
Version 3.6.6
March 28, 2021
New Camera Supports:
Added support for INNOVV K5 Dual (both MP4 and TS format)
Added support for INNOVV K3 Dual (both MP4 and TS format)
However, if you do not receive a good GPS signal, you cannot register GPS data either 😉
From research (lots of blogs on dashcams) Most Dashcams have inbuilt GPS. Some have a module that is roughly the same size. But some have a larger module that fit Trucks, and are quite intrusive.
But for a bike this seems to be the right size.
May need a bit more power.
I have had this for a couple of weeks. I found it to be good product.
More features in firmware will affect the storage on the SD card.
Thanks for the input.
It Seems to be a major issue with most of us that really needs to be addressed by innovv.
I certainly won't be recommending there product.
@bardicastle - it sounds like you are at the same point I was. I ended up returning the second unit before my return window ran out and I would end up paying a 15% restocking fee.
Here is where I landed with the product:
1) The GPS never worked for me. The documentation is inconsistent. Everything says GPS would not store to TS but would to MP4, but @Rock Liu said it would work on both. I could never get it to work on either
2) Even when I held the GPS up to the clear blue Texas sky like an offering to the gods with the GPS light solid, I could never get the GPS data to be recorded to either TS of MP4. It is worrying to read this thread: Beidou not GPS with no response from INNOVV 3) The App is pure shit! Constant lockup or crashing, I was told to stop using the Innovv K2 app rated at 3.1 on the Apple App store and use the Innovv app rated at 2.3 instead. I had already removed the device from my motorcycle, so did not test this, but I have no idea how the app could influence the hardware or firmware. The app is missing the ability to provide any feedback on GPS (BPS) status, which is a huge oversight. @Hans posted a request to get this in the app. In the camera preview there is an icon with GPS on it but all it seems to do is change the aspect ratio - no idea what it's supposed to do, but just exudes a lack of quality.
At the end of the day, I feel the product itself is well packaged and manufactured. It has a lot of potential, but documentation is terrible, the application is sub-standard, buggy and missing significant functionality, the support to the community is inadequate and the firmware is questionable. I bought this product for safety and given the short comings, there are too many red flags for me to rely on this product for this purpose. I hope you get your problem resolved.
@Rock Liu,
Is it really not possible to make the possibility in the app that you can measure the signal strength of the satellites?
It would be a welcome addition to finding the right place on the bike for the GPS module and for troubleshooting GPS malfunctions.
Surely this shouldn't cost too much effort to program this into the Innovv app? For example something like this:
(screenshot taken from GPS Test Plus app)
I have positioned my GPS in several locations finally behind the facing up and the GPS is still totally rubbish.
The speed lag registered is one thing,
The speeds I'm doing is nothing like the speed I'm actually doing!
Is there anyway I can resolve this?
Seems I'm not the only person with this problem looking at this page.
Following Integrity Check Errors #2,#3,#5,#6,#7,#8,#10
GPS Locate Under front Faring
Some files have the spanner but most do
OK time to rip this POS out and send it back. I pulled the bike into the open air today removed the GPS from where I had installed it and placed it in a wide open position mounted the GPS flat uncoiled the GPS wire connections are new type and solid with the metal connectors
GPS light is on
tried MP4 and TS recording - it's unclear as to which one supports GPS - Innov say K3 and K5 support GPS writing for TS but some on here say TS works on K2. Confused. Anyway, bottom line is that I have not successfully extracted GPS data from this system.
I am using the latest firmware
I have already exchanged one unit (GPS and DVR)
If I missed anything, would love to hear it, Sylar@INNOVV
My return window is May 5th so I am not going to mess about much more and will probably strip the bike down tomorrow.
More information, and I think the answer to my flaky GPS issues.
I noticed that when I pushed the GPS male/female connectors together there was zero resistance, and after they were pushed together, they would just fall apart (I use electrical tape to make sure the two sides stay together). I have the horrible plastic connector. I made the assumption that since I had taped this connection together, the pins inside were making good contact. Wrong.
I used a very small dental flossing brush to clean the male and female contacts. I noticed that the pins on the male side have small slit along their length (they're hollow). I used a utility knife to gently get into that slit and widen the pins a bit, and then put the connector back together. This time, there was a bit of resistance, and the connector did not fall apart when I let go. I re-taped the connectors together, and tested with the seat in place, and the wiring hidden. A test revealed that I have GPS data.
My conclusion: The (awful) GPS connector was not making good contact.
I also noticed that I receive GPS with the bike in the garage with garage door closed.
The GPS functionality on my K2 stopped working about a year ago. It was working fine before that. The receiver was installed between the right side of the seat and the right saddlebag (I have a H-D Roadglide Special), and all the excess cable was zip tied into a neat bundle under the seat. The receiver was horizontally mounted, and had a clear view of the sky. I tried checking the connection, cleaning the connectors, resetting the DVR to default, cursing under my breath, throwing things, etc. Nothing worked. Especially the cursing.
As a last attempt before ordering a replacement GPS unit, I removed the seat, uncoiled the GPS cable and draped it over the top of the tank, and taped the GPS receiver to the top of the windshield. Then I moved the bike to middle of the driveway. Yup, the GPS unit is now working. Obviously, I can't ride in this condition - I need to figure out how to re-install this and still keep the GPS happy. I too am wondering if the GPS cable is part of the antenna system.
If anybody has figured out how the GPS can be reliably installed without everything hanging out, please share!
NOTE: The default format is TS... TS doesn't store GPS data, so GPS recording is essentially disabled by default - which is kinda dumb! You need to switch to MP4 for GPS recording but MP4 is not as robust (read the FAQ about which format to use before switching - especially if you want the device for pure emergency recording TS vs recording scenic rides - MP4). I don't understand why GPS location time stamps can't be output as a text file when in TS recording.